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Paul Bull: [00:00:00] Okay, ladies and gentlemen, let’s get this going. It’s gonna get hot in here.

Paul Bull: Alright, thank you all for attending this evening’s forum. Um, if you’ve attended the forums that I, uh, moderate, I try to keep it very civil. Um, let’s be respectful of everyone here, please, including the people you’re sitting with, and these folks, because at the end of the day, we’re all neighbors. And for an hour, let’s at least pretend to be friends, okay?

Paul Bull: So, first off, I’d like to thank Josie Gutierrez. She donated the space tonight, so thank you very much.

Paul Bull: I don’t see a flag present. I’m going to use Jess as my flag. If we can all rise and, and say the pledge[00:01:00] 

Paul Bull: everyone’s scared at me.

Paul Bull: Okay, folks. I pledge allegiance to the life on the United States of America. And to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Paul Bull: Jeff, we’re done planning on that, so thank you for being a good sport. Okay, folks, let’s all get seated so we can get this started, please. We, we have, I’ll let the three candidates draw numbers and so that will determine the order we start the questions and introductions. Um, I’d like to begin with a little bit of ground rules this evening.

Paul Bull: [00:02:00] I would prefer I’m going to do everything in my power to not allow any negative comments about the candidates from the audience or from the candidates themselves. So, again, a little civility tonight for approximately an hour. As I said, a few of us here, we’re going to act like we’re friends, and we’re just going to be good to each other tonight.

Paul Bull: Is that fair enough? Fair enough. So again, we drew numbers. Um, we will start, the format this evening will be a three minute introduction from each candidate. Um, I have a fairly lengthy list of prepared questions that I’ve come up with with some help. Um, and then we will have a three minute chance for them to ask for our votes.

Paul Bull: Okay? Um, there are pens and paper here if you wish to try to get a question asked. I’ll be happy to try to work it in. Again, my rule always is I want the question to be appropriate for all three candidates to ask. [00:03:00] I don’t want to be necessarily directed at just one candidate for this particular event.

Paul Bull: Okay? Alright, so we will get started. Again, we have, uh, each person will have three minutes. And Mr. Scottie, you will have three minutes of introduction, and you’re welcome to start. I will be the clock as well, so I’ll give you a hands up when we’ve got 30 seconds 

Scotty McClure: left. What’s that say? On?

Scotty McClure: Might. I don’t really need it. Don’t think it, if you don’t need it. I, I didn’t use the last, you don’t need it. I

Scotty McClure: know on my electric bill that I got missed the other day. Okay. $194. Not bad for this summer year, but there’s another tax that I didn’t know was on my bill. If you look at your bill Lady Environmental purchase power. You had [00:04:00] perfect power then, but there’s an environmental thing now. It’s all you got.

Scotty McClure: Where the heck did that come from? That went through the ACC and, uh, So, I, I had seen this before. Been there a while. 88 cents, whatever. It’s, it’s, it’s kind of the thing that they call a tax. It’d be, Yeah, somewhere you call 8 1 1 when you’re putting, you’re putting up your signs. It’d be my sign for some day.

Scotty McClure: And they chewed me out for not calling in a service salute. I lost 16 signs down at Lazy Harry’s. What am I supposed to call them, 16 times? You guys are idiots. I had a very short conversation with this clown. But I have a feeling they got called out by somebody else, or whatever. Um,

Scotty McClure: My Young Republican Club people were at this convention. [00:05:00] With my Scotty signs all over the place. 

Paul Bull: Wow. 

Scotty McClure: And here’s some more smaller photos. What you doing? You’re a practitioner, you’re going to be teaching at the college this year. So, pretty smart pals. But, this is just, they had so much fun running around with those silly Scotty signs.

Scotty McClure: Who’s Scotty? We got on Fox News. Harvey Levin. Well, we walked behind them. They did. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you just do it. Well, it was funny. Anyway, they’re on my Facebook and whatever. Um, I’m not gonna talk about some of this stuff that’s been going on here lately, especially stealing our science. Um, he lost a whole bunch of science too.

Scotty McClure: And that’s a first sergeant. There’s not much more higher grade than you can get to be a first sergeant. That comes with respect. There’s only one great hire. [00:06:00] They took a lot of his signs, too. But Rubick really makes me mad, okay? On July 4th, 1912, I had eight red signs. You know the one that said, No? I finally got them back from the city.

Scotty McClure: I put eight American flags on them. 

Paul Bull: Thirty 

Scotty McClure: seconds. What? Thirty seconds. Okay. I lost two. People have been stealing flags. But in this town, it’s tough enough. But whatever. That’s a good time. 

Paul Bull: Alright, thanks Scott.

Paul Bull: Hey Rich, do you have three minutes? Yeah. Is this on? No. We’ll turn it off. Just push it. So push There’s a gray button there that’s unmuted.

Paul Bull: Yes. Yes. You’re, you’re, you’re [00:07:00] down in a minute and a 

Rich Lettman: half. I’m Rich Levin, and I’m, um, I’m a 73 year old retired businessman who’s on your Bullhead City Council. And I’m proud to live here and be a member of this community. And, and I also want to say thanks to everybody who made this possible tonight. Um, I brought with me, uh, the original notes that I had from the CRRW meeting in February, hard to believe that was six months ago.

Rich Lettman: And this was my initial message that I had given to people at that point in time. The really good news, this message hasn’t changed over six months. The focus of this message is very, very clear. I’m a person who’s fighting for Bullhead City. Because I know there’s a war going on up in Kingman, Arizona, at our county.

Rich Lettman: And that it’s really important that this city have a strong representative who fights for all of us. [00:08:00] I hope that I get to inherit a seat from a person who’s already had our backs. She’s moving on to the Arizona State Senate, and it is important,

Rich Lettman: it is really important that we continue to have a strong voice, a person who will advocate for you, fight for you, understands the basics of county budgeting, a 6, 000, 000 budget, 1, 700 employees. I have over 50 years of business experience. Including 13 years of owning a small business here in Bullhead City.

Rich Lettman: And I think that uniquely qualifies me. Okay, to handle your money, which I consider to be precious. Okay? Unless you’re a criminal, the most important piece of paper you will ever get from Mohave County is your property tax bill. And it is my job, I am laser focused, to keep [00:09:00] that bill as low as we can. And hopefully we’ll have an opportunity to talk tonight about some of the actual things I would plan on doing to divert spending from some areas that I consider unnecessary and moving it into areas where we desperately need help as a county.

Rich Lettman: The focus has always remained in this campaign on being very positive. Thank you. Understanding what are the things we can do, and that’s, that’s very important to me. There’s a water war going on. I get it that the supervisor has to be an advocate, and I’m sure we’re going to talk about water tonight, a little bit, I hope so.

Rich Lettman: You know, it’s important that we, that we engage in the water war, that we also have a supervisor who has experience dealing with traffic. Okay, so I go on the Mohave County Transportation Commission. I understand what’s going on. I have a plan to help alleviate the issues on Highway 95 [00:10:00] and elsewhere in 

Paul Bull: the city.

Paul Bull: Applause And next, Bryce. 

Grace Hecht: Hello. For those of you that haven’t seen my signs, billboards, light up trucks, commercials, postcards, I’m Grace Hecht. I’m born and raised here in Bullhead City, and I’m a successful business owner. I am excited to find solutions that we have problems here in Bullhead City that we need faced at the county level.

Grace Hecht: And I’m not looking to inherit any seat, I’m looking to earn your vote for that seat. Uh, I didn’t just decide to become a Republican, I’ve been a Republican my entire life. Mr. Evans right over there was my teacher in high school, my civics teacher. And I signed up to be a Republican when I was a senior in high school here in Ballhead City.

Grace Hecht: And I’m very excited to represent you. So as a successful business owner here in town, my husband [00:11:00] has owned a business for 25 years. And I owned a successful business and continue to run one here. I understand budgets, and I understand small businesses and what you’re facing here in Bullhead City. I’m excited to answer all of the questions that Paul Bull has here for us, and I’m excited to share those with you.

Grace Hecht: So thank you for coming tonight, and special thanks to Josie, to Paul Bull, to the Bee for coming and showing up and streaming this, the paper. All of this happens because of all of them and because of all of you showing up and taking an interest in voting. So thank you very much for being here.

Paul Bull: Okay, now we’ll have to go on to the questions. Um, and the first question will ultimately start with you Rich. Um, you’ll have two minutes to answer this question. If elected, what are your top priorities for our district? 

Rich Lettman: That’s simple. Same message we had six months ago. [00:12:00] Three very large priorities. Public safety is number one.

Rich Lettman: Not as much of a concern from a county perspective here in District 2, because we’re an incorporated city, we have our own police department. But we have a real problem outside of the four cities in this county. And that is we have just a deficit of over 40 sheriff’s deputies openings that need to be filled.

Rich Lettman: So we’re going to have to come up with some real creative ways to frankly pay our sheriff’s deputies more. And that’s really critically important, okay, that that happened. The second one is, we have a water issue. It’s all around the city. There’s just no escaping this one. And water is broken down into two big areas, okay.

Rich Lettman: There’s Colorado River water, the one that we’re most acquainted with, okay. And that’s pretty much the purview of the cities and tribes along the river. Mohave County doesn’t have much to say about Colorado River water. Okay. Because we gave or sold [00:13:00] our entitlement to Bullhead City many years ago. In fact, the only entitlement I’m aware that the county even has on the river is a very small purchase agreement for Davis Camp at Camp Grandel.

Rich Lettman: That’s about it. The third priority has to be infrastructure. And I’ve said this over and over. Roads, rooftops, good paying jobs. We need energy. We need power lines. We need all of this to grow our county so that we can afford to pay for the things that you want to have. Okay, everybody wants lots of services.

Rich Lettman: That’s going to take money. You’re going to have to grow the property tax base in an intelligent way and save money in other areas so we can get the things we want. Those would be the three top priorities for me.

Paul Bull: The same question. What are your top priorities for the district? And you have two minutes. 

Grace Hecht: My [00:14:00] top three priorities would be the budget, public safety, and water. So the budget is something that is desperately in need of an overhaul. I went up to Kingman yesterday and I had a meeting with Sam Alders, who’s the county manager, and we spent about an hour and a half talking about it.

Grace Hecht: Our population is growing at such an extreme rate that in 2025, we’ll hit around 225, 000, which affects us down here in Gullah City. So, the Wallapai Basin, we need to protect all of that water, and I plan to do so. 

Paul Bull: very much. very much. Tom, uh, the same question. If elected, what are your top priorities for the district?

Paul Bull: And you have two minutes. 

Scotty McClure: Everybody always brings up the chairs, and I think they’re pretty well got a decent squad up there. Dr. Schuchul is a wow over there. I go to most of the meetings up there, that’s why I know all these people up there. [00:15:00] Uh, there actually is even tickets out on the sideway down there.

Scotty McClure: They spend two or three hours a day in court. That’s what’s wrong with this ain’t it? Whether we’re being merciless, no we’re not. So our two officers that are down there, are running around and getting our tickets. I’ve got one. I had my license plate fell off. I’m a good old lady thing. Anyway, um, I want to, uh, I agree with you, yeah?

Scotty McClure: Especially this violence. Yeah. People, some of these people, I can’t say their names because I’ve called them all of them.

Scotty McClure: I didn’t make your kill list? No, but we still have a minute. Uh, okay. Well, you guys help me. I go to the meeting all the time.

Paul Bull: Folks, please. [00:16:00] Hey, Hildy, I’ve got this thing. Got it. I can’t do this? No, keep it focused, my friend. This is What are you going to do after you’ve been asked where the newspapers are for the last three years? We can talk about it after the post, please.

Paul Bull: We’ll, we’ll talk about that after this is over. 

Scotty McClure: I got copies of one of your, uh, your emails from January. 

Paul Bull: Okay, 

Scotty McClure: Scotty, moving 

Paul Bull: on. sir. Okay, this next question is somewhat two part, meaning the first part is just a lightning question. It’ll be just a quick answer from all three folks. And so I’ll start with Grace real quick.

Paul Bull: And the question is, in the past year, how many board meetings have you attended? And the answer is either 0, 0 5, or more than 5. 

Grace Hecht: More than 5. [00:17:00] 

Paul Bull: Way over the top. Way over the top. Alright, so all of you have demonstrated an interest in what’s going on, which is good. So then the next part of the question, we’ll start with Grace, and you’ll have two minutes.

Paul Bull: What decision, if any, have you not agreed with in the past year from the county? 

Grace Hecht: Well, I think as far as the peaker plant goes, that was a very, very difficult decision. I wish that they would have had all of the information when they Made that first decision because they made that decision and then that community came and they didn’t want that in anybody’s backyard.

Grace Hecht: I have to commend that community for standing together so strongly, and they got together and they came before the board and they let their feelings know, and then s changing it. I think that those kind of decisions that. come up, especially with planning and zoning, that the people in those rural communities maybe [00:18:00] need to have a little bit more attention to how they get notified about things that are coming to their area, which I think would make the whole process run smoother for the Planning and Zoning Commission, as well as the Board of Supervisors.

Paul Bull: Okay, thank you, Grace. And, Scott, the question to you then, again, is What decision, if any, have you not agreed with in the past year? You have two minutes left. 

Scotty McClure: I think they’ve done a pretty good job. My, I usually vote with a wrong goal. Pretty much 100 percent of the time. So, um, there’s usually wrong stuff your tax is going to be doing.

Scotty McClure: I get out there and I’m going to vote a new tax. I’m tired of this. Well, we need another penny for this and a penny for that. No, you don’t. You get disappointed about it. You need to cut your department down or whatever. But, uh, [00:19:00] I really don’t have a problem with what they did this year. I think they did pretty good with the mileage.

Scotty McClure: They supposedly made up 18 million and a half dollars, which was never the case anyway. I don’t know. Uh, whatever. You know how the newspaper’s feeling about the world? Yeah, that. It was never a shortage. You don’t do them more, they’re 5 or 10 million dollars worth. But don’t do them. They want a drug rehab, that’s 10 million.

Scotty McClure: I am not about to approve that without verbiage of it. So, uh uh. These guys need to go back to jail to get off the drugs. I’m not paying them for drugs. Six months again. They’re old enough to know better, old enough to take care of themselves, no more free rides, get off the drugs, and go back to jail.

Paul Bull: Thank you very much. Rich, question again. What decision is A having not [00:20:00] agreed with in the past 

Rich Lettman: year? They took a vote earlier in the year on, actually last year, on election integrity. And this was, uh, uh, Um, Hilde, I believe you voted in favor, but you were on the losing side to change the process so that we would, um, how we would count votes and cast these votes and count them.

Rich Lettman: And, uh, I, I’m a big believer in, in moving election counting and election voting down to very local levels. If I had my way, we’d almost all We’d almost go back to the old system I had growing up, which was, we counted these ballots right at the precinct hall. Okay, we’re going to cast. And I love that. And, um, I, I, I told, um, Supervisor Gould when I get up there, you know, we’re going to bring this subject back up.

Rich Lettman: You’re probably going to have another yes vote out in District 2. Okay, to reform the way we, we cast our ballots, and most importantly, the way we count them. Okay, to make sure that we have good election integrity. So I have, that’s probably the big [00:21:00] decision that I would say I would disagree with on the Board of Supervisors.

Rich Lettman: That position lost, I would have voted for it.

Paul Bull: This question is, what development projects would you like to see happen in the county? Environment. Any type of developments that you would like to see. So 

Scotty McClure: go ahead. You might be quick. I’ve seen the guy that got the money from the Samaritans and stuff. And one guy that’s been here has Angle Home, what’s that, 3000 homes?

Scotty McClure: I’m not going to that house. Nobody in Wall Street needs to come here and You are who you are. We’ve already had the Saudi Arabia going on. Finally, people are realizing, uh uh, no more. We’ve got a water hole. And that would be one of my top priorities, [00:22:00] getting rid of all these snakes in the grass.

Paul Bull: It just is. 

Scotty McClure: They come in and build 3, 000 holes, and then drill down, and then it’s just a golden valley. Don’t have any water, they got to drill deep. They’ve been here for 30 years? That’s not fair to them. 3, 000 holes. That’s all there is. I can’t make it any better. 

Paul Bull: Correct. Scott. Okay, uh, Rich, again, a question.

Paul Bull: What development projects have been? Would you like to see happen in the county? You have two minutes. 

Rich Lettman: Well, real quick, there’s two. Uh, and I make no bones about the fact that I’m a pro development guy, okay? That’s reasonably well designed and thought out and, you know, technologically viable. Those are projects we need.

Rich Lettman: But there’s even a big, a bigger project that I really am very much in favor of, and that is the I 11, I [00:23:00] 40, U. S. 93 interchange process in Kansas. Now, this guy wants that interchange built, because I know the economic impact that is going to have on our region. This is a big deal, by the way. Am I in favor of building homes and developments that are reasonable?

Rich Lettman: You bet I am. And I’m proud of that. If this was the Sierra Club sitting here, I would be saying the very same thing. Because I understand the only way I’m going to get the green pen out to increase revenues for this county is to increase the property tax base, not the property tax rate. Okay? That requires intelligently thought out growth.

Rich Lettman: Okay, and partnership with a lot of players on the scene. I cannot under, I can’t underestimate the importance of that I 11, I 40 interchange in Kingman. We’ll even have impact from that on District 2 when that’s completed. This guy is going to be an advocate for [00:24:00] those kind of highway improvements. 

Grace Hecht: So, the development that we have here in Bullhead is incredible.

Grace Hecht: Bullhead itself is booming. District 2 is just the incorporated area of Bullhead. So even though I know that we’ll be making decisions that are for the entire county, I just have to say that our city government here, our local government, is doing an absolutely incredible job. I just went to the Target Shopping Center today and we have Blue Barn coming in.

Grace Hecht: We have staff. shoes. We have so many businesses coming here. But if those businesses aren’t businesses that can support families, then we’re just continuing these, these jobs that are not enough to support a family. I have moms that are in my mom’s group where they’re working, their husband’s working and they still can’t make it.

Grace Hecht: We’re all feeling that crunch. So the development of Rose and the interstate is [00:25:00] wonderful, but because we don’t have A county sales tax, we’re not making money on all of those products that would be bought here, and that would have been a great vote to be able to bring in all of that income from people that these companies would be buying from, and we’re not getting that.

Grace Hecht: So, I think that those developments are good, continuing to bring jobs here, like dot foods, and other economic development. We have a, we have people in Bullhead that are building houses and building developments. We have steady growth. We have apartments right down here. And we have somebody in the room that is building a whole neighborhood here.

Grace Hecht: So, I think that investing in the communities and the businesses that we have here, bringing them up to the next level, will do the very best for our economy here.

Paul Bull: Along these same lines, and this will start with you Rich, along these same lines, what are your [00:26:00] thoughts on renewable energy projects on public lands? 

Rich Lettman: I’ll make this quick. Um, I’m not a big fan of renewable green on the public goal. And part of the use of public land is part of the public goal. I have a real problem with EV subsidies, okay, with green subsidies for renewable energy batteries.

Rich Lettman: I like the approach the NEC is taking, however, which is this is an organization That all of us, most of us in the room here, are members of, and we own it, okay? And they have an approach to renewable energy that seems reasonable. It’s a balanced approach. They understand we may need natural gas to back up our power supply around here.

Rich Lettman: I fully embrace that, okay? They may need, also, some wind turbine. They may need some battery power, some solar. I get all of that. But I’m [00:27:00] not a big fan of using your tax dollars to subsidize that type of development. And it’s, it’s pretty clear. I can’t imagine the county doing that, but in terms of public land, stay off the public land.

Rich Lettman: And what’s so incredible about that, is that we have BLM that has restricted these public lands for many uses. Okay, and here we go with a Biden, Harris, okay, generation that says, well, maybe we’ll stretch those rules a little bit for public lands because one of our priorities is green, green energy. We’ll kind of stretch the rules for that.

Rich Lettman: I’m not in support of that at all. applause Sounds like a 

Paul Bull: lot of people agree with you other than this dog did not. laughter The dog had a little bit of growl about your answer. laughter [00:28:00] Sorry, sorry about the distraction. Uh, the script is back to you, Grace. If you have any questions, please

Paul Bull: How do you feel all about, um, renewable energies on public lands? And you have two minutes. 

Grace Hecht: So, I also think that we should not be using our public lands for these renewable energies. Um, if you go from Lake Havasu to Kingman, you’ll see these windmills that are out there, and They’re costing more now to replace the parts than the energy that they’re actually creating, so.

Grace Hecht: Also, we don’t want to look like when you come from Vegas to here. We don’t want that. I don’t want that. I hope you all don’t want that. We have a beautiful desert and a beautiful landscape. I don’t want all of this landscape that we have to be covered up with [00:29:00] solar farms.

Paul Bull: Okay, Senator, you have two minutes to talk about your thoughts on renewable energy on public land. 

Scotty McClure: You mean all that good stuff? Yes, sir. Last year, we really got a good one. Everything between here and the searchlight is history. Can’t do that anymore. And then there was a gang that can’t do nothing there either.

Scotty McClure: And then somebody decided to have to deal with it. The key to the city. Christian cinema. Unreal. At least it stole another million acres from us. We had a party at that Colorado Hotel. You know that place with the nine dollar hamburgers? 

Paul Bull: You 

Scotty McClure: don’t have to be frightened anymore. Up here, we’ve got four [00:30:00] parcels of this non alcoholic beer.

Scotty McClure: Four separate parcels. No one. Uh, why are we still holding on to that? Because they’re out there playing little wifey games with chairs and stuff. They are beauty and they don’t want to sell. Uh, I’m sick of that too. I don’t care if they don’t like it. It needs to be traded to the community park where we’re paying rent on that.

Scotty McClure: It’s just ridiculous. We keep paying rent every year. We’ve got four parcels up there. And the parcels are pretty much, uh, when you go over the pass there, it’s up there. Um, the ones, uh, that road access, the other one is this. I’ll tell you a little bit more.

Paul Bull: Thanks, Guy. Okay, uh, first this question starts with Grace and you kind of commented on it earlier a little bit. So, um, elaborate if [00:31:00] you would on your philosophy of rezoning property within the county. Yeah. Two minutes. Sure. 

Grace Hecht: So, this is something that when I’ve gone to the supervisor’s meeting or I’ve watched online, So, um, planning and zoning meetings.

Grace Hecht: I really think that we need to have really good qualified people on that board. And it takes a lot to go up there and spend your time. But having good, um, people that know what they’re doing on that board, I think is very important. Um, we have Kirk Wilder, who’s on the job that they have to do, the job of three people is put on the shoulders of one person.

Grace Hecht: And that’s a major problem. So, I think that this, all, the whole system is really broken, and planning and zoning can be fixed when we start attacking each system. Individually.[00:32:00] 

Paul Bull: Okay, Scott, the question again is comment on the philosophy of rezoning properties. We have two minutes left. 

Scotty McClure: We got a real problem up the rezoning because

Scotty McClure: the person from Baldhead has their own rezoning, and if I had my choice, I’d get rid of the two guys that are on our client zoning. Brilliant. What? Um,

Scotty McClure: Usually the person that it’s in their area, they’ll go along and vote with them because they’re supposed to look it up and get back. So if they say yes, then you go along with them. You always should get back up on this. It depends on what’s going to be resolved. You can’t shut Mom and Pop’s up out there.

Scotty McClure: Don’t look sprains. Um, you know, let them have a store. Remind someone that. These corporations that are coming in from New [00:33:00] York, I’m livid over this. Livid. I will vote no. Every chance I get. I’m done with this Wall Street BS. You hear me ripping our water off? They come in and rezone it just like this stupid thing down here.

Scotty McClure: At the bridge, that Emerald whatever. What a joke. I want a rope to go from there to there. Then we can go to hell. Just go to the forage field and go back and just, you don’t need a planning. It’s only two people on our, on our board.

Paul Bull: Thank you, sir. Rich again. Comment on your philosophy about rezoning properties. There are two minutes. 

Rich Lettman: Arizona strongly believes in the rights of property owners to develop their land. And make use of it in accordance with the way [00:34:00] that land is zoned. I absolutely respect that. We have a general plan update coming in this county later this year.

Rich Lettman: So this is the big opportunity for all developers, all communities, all interested parties, everybody. To have input on what that general plan is going to look like. Just like the general plan here in Full Head City, except this one is the general plan for unincorporated areas of the county outside of Full Head City.

Rich Lettman: So this is the big opportunity to have input, and the county board of supervisors this year, not next year, so we’ll, the three of us would have, or I would have no input on this. Okay, but we need to understand, once that general plan is set, it’s a pretty high bar to go over to start rezoning. And if we are going to have a rezoning process, the interested parties, all of them, the parties, the neighbors, the landowners, the developers, whoever is requesting a rezoning, they [00:35:00] better come up with a really competent plan and message that says, I’ve talked to the people who are involved.

Rich Lettman: Those could be neighbors. Those could be special districts like fire departments, school districts. We have a plan. We’ve talked to everybody and here’s a consensus. Don’t bring these inadequate plans in front of the Planning Commission and the Board of Supervisors. But again, I respect this, this state’s philosophy towards the use of land.

Rich Lettman: All 

Paul Bull: right, we’re going to have two rapid questions here and start with Scotty. Let’s see who can get close. What amount is the proposed revenue for this upcoming fiscal year budget?

Scotty McClure: Yes, sir. Don’t have a clue. Okay. It’s almost as big as, uh, bigger than the city. Oh 

Rich Lettman: my gosh. Okay. It’s just [00:36:00] south of 600 million. 588 million volts. 

Paul Bull: And then, the, uh, second part, rapid question, Scotty. What department Utilizes the most amount of the budget. What? What department uses the most money? Oh, Sheriff’s Department.

Paul Bull: Okay. H. I. General. Okay. Alright, that was simple enough. And so, based on that, and you led this right to the question. Scott, you’ll love this one. Uh, based on the budget, would you support a sales tax to assist You’ve got 60 seconds, are you done? Oh, I’m done. Alright. Thanks, Scottie. And so now, Rich, you’re So, Rich, your answer to your support or lack [00:37:00] of support for some sort of funding of the Sheriff’s Office.

Paul Bull: The 

Rich Lettman: best way to fund, the best way to fund the Sheriff’s Department is to divert money from unnecessary expenses into the Sheriff’s Department.

Rich Lettman: And I would be extremely reluctant. Let’s go up to the 97, 98 percentile range of not approving an additional sales tax. Okay, I, let’s, let’s get this off. I am never going to move into a mode though where I’ll sit there and tell you I will never, ever, ever do that. Okay, if that is a bad position to get into, okay, and when a really extreme emergency comes along.

Rich Lettman: We haven’t had one of those for a while, okay? But in essence, I would absolutely find alternative sources of revenue. We can monetize some of the county’s assets, okay? That’s a hard process to go through. Again, we can develop and we can raise the property tax base. I’m not a big [00:38:00] fan of a sales tax increase for this purpose.

Rich Lettman: Thank you.

Rich Lettman: In 

Paul Bull: Greg’s two 

Grace Hecht: minutes. Can you repeat the question? Of course. 

Paul Bull: Yeah. What is your stance or support of raising a tax? For the purpose of funding the Sheriff’s Department. 

Grace Hecht: Yeah, absolutely. So, on my sign it says, safer streets, lower taxes, right? So, I believe that the citizens of Mohave County shouldn’t be shouldering the taxes that are In just in Bullhead alone, we have over 2 million tourists that come here.

Grace Hecht: And we survive in Bullhead City on a 2 percent sales tax, and we have 40 million, 46 million in the bank because of that 2 percent sales tax. For 20 years, we had a quarter cent sales tax. 20 years. That raised 122 million, which [00:39:00] funded, this is from the, uh, which funded the courthouse, The county administration facility, the sheriff’s office, the detention center, and development services are public, a portion of public works.

Grace Hecht: All of those things are necessary to run a government. And, as I agree with my opponent here, that that would be the last alternative, and we should look for everywhere to cut. I was in those budget meetings when they are having the department come up and say, What would you like me to cut? We are cutting into the bone.

Grace Hecht: So, if we can find places to cut, I’m all for that. But there is no reason that we should have only two deputies. from Topoc all the way to Fort Mohave with a booming population. What’s happening is Bullhead City Police is now having to respond to Fort Mohave because they don’t have enough coverage. That is not how we grow a safe, [00:40:00] um, safe community.

Grace Hecht: Thank you, Rich.

Paul Bull: This question will start with you, Rich. And this then goes into a delicate one. Is there a place in the budget where you feel we could cut costs? Yes. Two minutes, Rich. 

Rich Lettman: Uh, this will be fast. Uh, there are a number of areas that I think we could do some reductions. One of my favorites is the animal care center up in Kingman.

Rich Lettman: Okay, that, that animal shelter is located right inside the city limits of Kingman. Guess who puts the bill for the animal shelter? That’s right, all of us in the room, the tax payers of Mohave County. You know what Kingman can run their own animal shelter. Just the same way Bolton’s doing that. Can we talk about a sweetheart deal for Kingman?

Rich Lettman: Uh uh. We can find another way to move the expense of that animal shelter around. Okay, over to the people of Kingman. [00:41:00] I am really adamant on this one. That that irritates me a lot. Bullhead City, us in the room, we’ve stepped up. Okay, we’re getting ready to build the Bullhead Area of Animal Resource Center.

Rich Lettman: And guess who’s paying for it? We are. Okay, the people up in Kingman can do the exact same thing. I don’t have time to go into my, my thoughts about, um, the fairgrounds up in Kingman. I’ve had a lot to say about this. I’ve taken a lot of criticism for some of the things I’ve said. I get it. We have 4 H. We have a need for a fairground.

Rich Lettman: I understand all of that. That’s a money loser. And that’s a big one. And we need to find another way, okay, to reform the way we operate. Let’s either have a fairground that is done correctly. Or let’s, you know, let’s find another alternative process for that. Those are two easy ones. Okay, well we can cut out money.

Rich Lettman: And we can divert that money, say, over to the Sheriff’s Department? 

Paul Bull: [00:42:00] Yes.

Paul Bull: Where is the question at? Is there a place in the budget where you feel we can cut costs? 

Grace Hecht: Um, yes. So, um, Um, on the Bullhead City Council we just brought in a company that is going to, uh, check all of our city facilities if they’re being energy efficient. That is not costing us anything as the city, but once they implement those things, we will save a lot of money.

Grace Hecht: I think doing that kind of study on all of the county business, um, County buildings would also be very economically sound. Also, here in Bullhead City, we have the Bullhead City Direct App, and although there is a small upfront cost for that, I think that it will save money in the budget because you will have people that are policing their own community, and they can turn those things in, which will go directly to the departments that are necessary.

Grace Hecht: So I think that those [00:43:00] are a couple of ways that we can save money. Um, another thing that we can cut in the budget, Bullhead City, we took on our Senior Nutrition Center here. That is under the jurisdiction of Bullhead City. And we just heard at our last City Council meeting that in Bullhead City, if you need Meals on Wheels, you don’t call WACOG, you call our Senior Center.

Grace Hecht: And you get on that list right away. Wacog, you could wait up to two weeks. I’m on the executive board of Wacog, and I have been for the last three years, and I don’t think that’s acceptable. We have seniors that need immediate help. Maybe those communities in Kingman and Lake Havasu should take their own senior centers and run them themselves, just like Rich said.

Grace Hecht: But as far as, The animal shelter, I’ve been on ride alongs in Mohave Valley and Fort Mohave, and they pick up animals and they take them to Kingman. So it is not just a Keenman issue with those animal shelters, there’s animals from Mohave Valley and Fort Mohave that are getting picked [00:44:00] up and transported there.

Grace Hecht: I do think that it should have been built a little bit bigger. Yes. 

Paul Bull: Thank you, Grace. Okay, Scotty, we have a question. Is there a place in the budget you feel could be cut? Two minutes. 

Scotty McClure: Uh,

Scotty McClure: at the meeting and seeing what they’re doing. Um, you know, I go to these things all the time, and I’m, um, I’m okay with what they’re doing because they violins out every day, and they came out to where they were breaking even. So, what can I complain about? They went from 18 million down to pretty close to zero.

Scotty McClure: You’re never going to get, you know, perfect. But, uh, there’s things. Each department, there’s 85 departments. And I, when I was on a school board for nine years, we had 89 departments. [00:45:00] So, you have to go through each one at a time. You don’t go busting in on them when they’re going out at 7 You know, but you look around at what they are doing.

Scotty McClure: How many miles is it? And these kids that are driving a company county car, they’ve got to stop. That is a big, when they drive to Phoenix on Republican business, and then they go to their parents house. Um, I will stop that. She hates my guts anyway, you have to get used to it. 

Paul Bull: You’re pushing it, but you’re up there.

Paul Bull: Alright, Scotty. Thank you, sir. Okay, um, next question. Um, and he’s great, I believe he is. Uh, what are your thoughts on the county’s groundwater policy? And we have two minutes. 

Grace Hecht: So, oh, sorry. So, here in Bullhead City, we take from the surface water, [00:46:00] and all of our water here in Bullhead City is groundwater from the Colorado River.

Grace Hecht: So, although the issues that face Mohave County, like the Wallapai Basin or the Red Lake, those are areas where I believe that we should give it a rest. I talked to our representative, John Gillette, and had an extensive conversation about this, and the water, and these companies trying to come in and take our water.

Grace Hecht: And giving that basin a rest. I think would be the best thing for it. There’s already, um, residential people that are there, and they have wells, they have homes. This wouldn’t be stopping those people, but it would be stopping these corporations that come in and they’re building pistachio farms out in the middle of the desert that we’re not seeing the fruit from that and they’re just pumping our water out of the ground.

Grace Hecht: I don’t think that we should allow that kind of, uh, you know, [00:47:00] Things to happen in our county. We need the water up in Kingman. We need our water here. And we need those allocations to stay here. In La Paz County, there was a Wall Street company that came in and they bought up land. And then they sold the water rights right underneath them for nearly 14 million.

Grace Hecht: Now that land is fallow, and nothing can be done with it. I don’t want that to happen here in Mohave County, and I will fight to keep our water rights secure.

Paul Bull: Scott, I’m going to question what are your thoughts on the county’s groundwater policy. 

Scotty McClure: We ain’t got much left. Uh, You know, this is really not an accounting problem, except they do pay a guy a round order, whatever, a million dollars a year, I think it is, whatever, it don’t matter, we’re paying him. And they report once a week.

Scotty McClure: And this, our round order, is really [00:48:00] made up by the Senate and the House. Uh, and man, when they screw up, they really screw us up. And we’re gonna, we’re gonna give him a crap. Laughter. Governor, she could care less about Mohawk County. So, our groundwater is there, but we’re letting these grape growers, alfalfa growers, annual homes, um, there ain’t much left.

Scotty McClure: You’re going to see, eventually, some people having to deal with another 50 feet because they were there. 10 years ago when they had water, well it’s lower now. This is just, the legislature won’t do their part. And I am like,

Paul Bull: Thanks guys. [00:49:00] Okay Rich, same question, two minutes. What are your thoughts on the county’s groundwater policy? 

Rich Lettman: Well I think we’re all three in agreement on this one. Big Ag, which is really what this is all about, needs to stay off some of these lands. I was going to say, welcome to the world of hydrology.

Rich Lettman: Okay, it is the issue that really, probably more than any other, is going to determine our long range future. Our ability to grow, our ability to keep what we have, our ability to, to simply have the lifestyle that we have. It’s really critical, okay, that we understand that the county has a lot to say about groundwater as opposed to the county having not much to say about river water.

Rich Lettman: The county does have a lot to say. And we have a very active, aggressive county in this area. I support the lawsuits that are going on. I support some of the strategies of, of the Mohave County Water Authority. And this goes not only with [00:50:00] river water, but I definitely support the building of these retention basins up in the Walla Pye area.

Rich Lettman: That’s critical to diverting rainwater that comes down the river. You build these retention basins around the edge, okay, of that aquifer up there, and we move that water, okay, we recharge it as best we can. The long end run about all this is going to be the role of big agriculture in doing this. I think all three of us agree on this, that we’re not real happy about public lands, private lands being used by these big corporations coming in and wasting our water.

Rich Lettman: And the big impact on this isn’t going to be Bullhead City. Okay, because we pull our water out of the river. Okay, it’s gonna be Kingman. Okay, Val Vista, Butler, these areas up there. These are the ones that are most at risk, and we have a responsibility to protect these people and their source of water.

Paul Bull: And I’m 

Rich Lettman: asking 

Paul Bull: if you can [00:51:00] name one county policy that you either strongly agree or disagree with and why. So a county policy you really agree with or really disagree with and why? 

Scotty McClure: Well, I go to a lot of these meetings and I agree with most of them anyway. So, I’m not really against anything they’ve been doing.

Scotty McClure: They’ve been doing a pretty darn good job. Um, I’ve heard the newspapers writing. All three, I think we have the newspaper anymore. So, you might follow that. Oh, yeah, no problem. Wait a minute. 

Paul Bull: Thanks. Okay, Rich. Again, same question. You have two minutes. Name a county policy you strongly agree or disagree with and why 

Rich Lettman: I’ll take one of each.

Rich Lettman: So we’re a we’re a Second Amendment, you know, county. We strongly believe in your right to bear [00:52:00] arms. I absolutely endorse that. Believe in it. I want your Second Amendment rights upheld, and this county has done a damn good job, okay, of making sure That is public policy. We respect that. The area I’m a little uncomfortable about, okay, is our budgeting process.

Rich Lettman: Uh, back in the good old days at Macy’s and Office Depot, we did zero based budgeting. Okay, which said, uh, you start out with a piece of paper, this is what I’m gonna need, and you build that budget upwards. Okay, we don’t do that here in Mohave County. I would advocate for a change in that process. Also, I’m kind of a fan of a two year budgeting process, as opposed to a one year, so we get out of this yo yo cycle of going through this every single year, okay?

Rich Lettman: Most big companies, most big organizations, many governmental agencies really operate on a two year plan, and I think that’s a wise thing to look at. It may not be appropriate for this county, but I think it probably would be. [00:53:00] And 

Paul Bull: again, name one county policy you strongly agree or disagree with and why.

Paul Bull: Two minutes. 

Grace Hecht: Okay. Um, so the policy right now for the counties, for the parks, right? So inside Bullhead City, the only area is Davis Camp. And the policy right now is that Davis Camp, and the wallopis, and the fairgrounds, those are the only ones that make any money or they charge anything for people to come in.

Grace Hecht: And the funds, it’s like an enterprise fund. So, the funds from those parks, fund a whole bunch of other smaller parks around Monthly County. So, I think that Davis Camp, Mayor Brady, who’s here, planted those palm trees with his very own hands. It’s really not getting the lion’s share of the amount of money that’s being raised, and I think that more money should go back into Davis [00:54:00] Camp to make it, Um, more successful.

Grace Hecht: There, I’m sure you’ve all seen, there’s a patch of grass there on the corner that gets watered every single day. I, I have yet to see any events go on there. I think we could do so much more in our park system here in Bullhead City. Our park, our statement enterprise fund with our parks is doing fantastic and bringing in so much tourism and so much revenue.

Grace Hecht: I, I don’t see why we don’t put more effort into, into our parks. And make them as successful as possible. Our main, uh, income here is tourism. With, uh, sales tax, at least for Bollhead City. So let’s work on making those parts the very best that we can. So that we can bring more tourists and more revenue into our communities.

Paul Bull: Thank you very much. Okay. We just have two questions remaining, folks. Okay, this one starts with you Rich. [00:55:00] And two minutes, either be, it’ll be a two second answer or it’ll be two minutes. Should the county have a lobbyist in Phoenix? You have two minutes. 

Rich Lettman: Sure. $600 million organization. We’re interacting with politicians, both sides of the aisle, Democrats and Republicans.

Rich Lettman: We got a Democratic governor. Um, as, as much as I would like to think county staff is really well versed. Okay, on every single issue facing a hearing. That probably isn’t the case. And it definitely isn’t the case when so much of the action, as Scotty has pointed out, is going on down there in Phoenix in the state of Maricopa.

Rich Lettman: You might want to have a set of eyes and ears down there working for you. Okay, I think that would be a really good idea. Now, how much you pay this lobbyist, that’s up for debate. Okay, what is the role, what’s the purpose, what are they going to do? I don’t know. But you want to have a folks, someone who’s down there, that’s got your eyes and ears covered that can [00:56:00] work the back rooms, unfortunately, because that’s where they find out information.

Rich Lettman: They understand the direction that the state wants to go into. And by the way, the direction the state wants to go isn’t always the direction we want. Okay? And a lobbyist is probably the first line of defense to identify that very problem for you. Their roles should be limited. We want to be careful.

Rich Lettman: They’re not an elected official. Okay, but we definitely need to use every input we can get to fight for ourselves. Okay, and that’s what we’re up against. We’re a small county. Very small county compared to others. A lobbyist can really help us out. Congratulations 

Paul Bull: and congratulations to the county and the lobbyists in Phoenix.

Grace Hecht: Yes, we should have a lobbyist in Phoenix, however, this past year I have gone to Phoenix, I would say, at least five times. I’ve sat in, um, both the Senate and the House, and watched. And I [00:57:00] have to say, we have incredible fighters there. Sonny Borelli. Leo Biasucci and John Gillette are doing an incredible job holding the line with just one seat majority in both the House and the Senate.

Grace Hecht: The lobbyists that we have, however, I think should change. Uh, it is high ground, that’s what it’s called, and I have talked to our representatives and very few of the people that work up there that lobbyists need to talk to, they don’t want to deal with that person. So, we need to look for a lobbyist that can actually do the job of a lobbyist, which means making relationships and talking to the people that matter.

Grace Hecht: And I think the one we have now is doing that. 

Paul Bull: Grace. Okay, Shadi, next question. Would you support a lobbyist in Phoenix? Two minutes. 

Scotty McClure: Another expense, huh? You already got a high ground going down there for me, here, whatever. They do report every, every time we get up there. [00:58:00] And boy, without them, you can’t send a lawyer from Kingman or Bolivet down to Phoenix every week.

Scotty McClure: And you guys know that. You can’t have a person from here. None of you should be going down there. You need somebody already there. Yeah. Brown, Mike Brown does a pretty darn good job. But that’s only water. Has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment or the 3rd Amendment or whatever. Water only. And they do a pretty good job.

Scotty McClure: In the air. Can’t cut them out. They, I grew up in California, where we’re probably the smallest county that, we’re having to deal with idiots from L. A. They didn’t care one, I voted about Humboldt County, not one bit. [00:59:00] And unless you were telling them there, you know, that I’ll vote for this if you vote for this.

Scotty McClure: That was the only way. And, that’s trade your votes. But, sometimes you ain’t got a choice. But, as far as, I don’t know, I go down there every weekend. Um, I need somebody that’s already there. It’s gonna be a piece of money. I have my brother in law. One of the people lives in a big ol house in Davis. And he’s one of those people with, like, 12, 000 square feet, two stories.

Scotty McClure: Yeah, he’s making money. I think you’ve got more credit cards than Jerry Brown has. 

Paul Bull: Alright, thank you Scotty. Okay, we’re going to go on to our final question. Alright folks, we’re about wrapped up. We’re going to have our final question and then we’ll have closing statements from all the [01:00:00] candidates. Uh, final question starts with you, Grace.

Paul Bull: And, ultimately, do you trust Mohave County election process? And if not, what would you change? And you have two minutes. 

Grace Hecht: Yes, I trust the Mohave County election process because we have an incredible elections department and a wonderful county reporter. And they do such a phenomenal job. I actually went up there a couple months ago and I met with the person that does elections.

Grace Hecht: I did a tour for two and a half hours and they walked me through the entire process. Uh, showed me how they validate the signatures, the whole thing. So, while yes, I think hand counting is very important, and I think that those should be done, um, in larger batches, or even done on a local level, I think that our elections department, and our, um, people that we have working up there, are doing a really good job.

Grace Hecht: And although that might be a very big problem [01:01:00] in Maricopa, here in Mohave County, we have excellent staff. that need to have more stuff because they are understaffed, but they’re doing a really good job. 

Paul Bull: Thank you.

Paul Bull: Question for you, Scotty, again, is do you trust the Mohave County election process? And if not, what would you change? 

Scotty McClure: Alan Temper has never had a problem in all the years he’s been here other than being on the program. Uh huh. Karina. Yes. Oh, it’s got to be. Okay. We got hangin in a lot of paperwork over this last couple months.

Scotty McClure: You know, for, uh, stuff. Buying signs and stuff. I didn’t buy any. I bought signs and that’s all. I did not get one dollar. That’s all the stuff you get. Um, I think we just keep going without them. I don’t have a problem with that, on the other hand, the people in that office are so cool. [01:02:00] They know what they’re doing, if I was not there, they’d give me an answer.

Scotty McClure: Stop in and see her, when they’re about to ring her. She is so funny. So, I’m not changing anything on that department. 

Paul Bull: Thanks, Guy. Okay, Rich, again, question, do you trust Mahoney County elections, and if not, what would you change? 

Rich Lettman: Yeah, I trust them. I think all three of us trust them. Alright, let’s see some changes.

Rich Lettman: I’m, I’m, I’m a guy who believes in election integrity, even though I don’t think election integrity is a big problem here in Mohave County, it’s one of the advantages of having a really tight knit organization up there and they’re well led and well directed. I mean, I, I definitely agree with that. We had an opportunity to impose some election integrity last year.

Rich Lettman: That vote failed. I am confident whoever the supervisor is from District 5 and District 3, okay, down in Lake Havasu, if that comes back up for another vote, we’re going to probably have that legislation passed. [01:03:00] Okay, so. That’s a good deal to me, uh, personally, and I believe in that very strongly, and, um, again, I appreciate the vote that, um, Supervisors Gould and Hankus, you know, they were in the minority on that.

Rich Lettman: That’s unfortunate. But, uh, yeah, I trust this department. I think they’re well run. I can’t sit there and say there’s big problems in that area. Not at all. Again, I would really like to see counting done at a local level. I think that’s important.

Paul Bull: Okay, we’re wrapped up here. We’re going to give everyone a chance for closing statements. I appreciate everyone’s patience. It was a little warm. Mostly we were pretty polite, so that makes me happy. And so, we’ll go in reverse order, so Grace, you’ll be able to start. And so you’ll have three minutes to tell us why we should vote for you.

Grace Hecht: Thank you again everyone for coming, and I would just like to share that my personal motivation for running for office [01:04:00] is a family legacy. My family has been here in the United States since the Revolutionary War, and, It’s like having a bloodhound, right? Or a greyhound. I didn’t know until my mom passed away earlier this, uh, last year, that I was a member of the Daughters of the American Revolution.

Grace Hecht: And finding that history in this last fall, going to Washington, D. C. and, uh, Seeing my ancestors monument there really made me understand why I care so much, why I care so much about our country, our freedoms, and why my husband and I are raising our daughters here in this community to stand up for those freedoms that we all have.

Grace Hecht: So I work every single day to make whole head butter and bring new businesses into town. I just met with someone today bringing a new business here. And supporting local businesses. I would like your vote for a Mohave County [01:05:00] supervisor because I know that I can do the very best job and I have been fiscally responsible for with my own business.

Grace Hecht: I’ve been on city council for three years. The president of Morning Kiwanis served on Wake Hog for three years. I’ve been on city council for three years. Everything that I do is to make our community better and to put that investment into there. So I’m very excited to be your representative at the county level and fight and continue to fight every day for a bolder city.

Rich Lettman: I think there’s a lot you can tell by the materials you receive in the mail from each of us. Okay, so, if I wanted to tell you a message about me more than any other, it would be this right here. I’m fighting for Bullhead City. I understand the battle, what’s going on. I’m on the City Council. This is a war going on, not only a cultural war, [01:06:00] but a fiscal war.

Rich Lettman: Okay, and that’s really important. And that leads to another card. I strongly believe in this. Keeping your taxes low. And we heard tonight, okay, for the first time, some chatter about a sales tax. I’m going to make this really clear. We’re not going to have a sales tax increase. Okay, I don’t care if it’s the visitors.

Rich Lettman: The residents, whoever it is, we’re not going down that path unless we absolutely have to. And I don’t think we have to at this point in time. But I’ll tell you the card I’m really most proud of, and that’s this one. I’ve been endorsed by our mayor and two members of our city’s council. There’s a reason they endorsed me.

Rich Lettman: That’s Tammy Green, Rodney Head, and Steve D’Amico. There’s a reason I have the endorsement, okay? That’s because I [01:07:00] understand the job I face. I understand the challenge. And most importantly, I work strongly with the mayor and the city manager of this city, of Bullhead City. And that’s a relationship that only of the three of us up here that I have.

Rich Lettman: Okay, I’m the guy that understands how to work with Steve D’Amico, and when I’m up in Kingman, speed dial number one on that iPhone is Mayor Steve D’Amico. There’s a partnership between the two of us. The county supervisor, and the mayor of this city, and the city manager of this city. And I embrace these people as partners in everything we need to get done.

Rich Lettman: It’s a big challenge that we face. Um, I have other stands. I’m running out of time. I think I’m very pro conservative. I’m very conservative. I wear this Trump pin for a reason, okay, I strongly believe, [01:08:00] okay, in re electing Donald Trump, back up the term.

Rich Lettman: So I ask for your vote because I think I’m the candidate with the best experience to go up to Kingman and tackle the job at hand. Okay, so, I ask for your vote. As long 

Paul Bull: as you’re not on the roasting side of D’Amico’s mic, it’s not a bad idea. We all have guests, so you can stay away from that. Okay, Scott, you get to wrap up the event this evening.

Paul Bull: Three minutes of why we should vote for you, sir.

Scotty McClure: Well, I made it to the convention.

Scotty McClure: Young Republican Club, they got this on Fox News. Left behind them. And they didn’t know they were connected. Got on. Uh, 11th, whatever. These kids are our Young Republican Club. She’s also a nurse [01:09:00] practitioner. She’s going to be teaching at the college. She’s going to be my secretary. So, I guess I need a doctor.

Scotty McClure: Oh, come here. But you can see these here. They’re pretty cool. Um, I have a problem with some of the things that City Council has done, especially the 4. 6. That’s where you do not ever get a, another vote, another voice. You do not get one anymore. You will never, just like you don’t get to select the next.

Scotty McClure: The person on the city council wasn’t a, a, a valid individual. They did that away. They gave themselves a COLO range forever. These guys are something else. They’re going to be making more money doing social security, they’re pretty good at the COLO range. Well, I’m dissatisfied with some of the stuff that they’ve [01:10:00] done.

Scotty McClure: There can be a better way. Okay.

Scotty McClure: Yes. I hope 416 died big time. We can rewrite it. The way it’s written, there are no strings. We need some strings on that. Otherwise, you guys are never going to have another state scope whatsoever on anything. Not, uh, no on 16, 416. And, what’s it say? Scotty, you got it. Great. to all these kids. Hey, kids. Yeah.

Scotty McClure: Oh, that’s it. 

Paul Bull: Yeah. She’s all over the place, dude. It’s gonna be fine. It’s fine. Uh, you’re good. Keep going. You got, you got a minute left, Scotty. Like I can hear you. I’m pretty damn loud. You can hear it.

Scotty McClure: Little show time. Uh, You’re welcome. Yeah, so, [01:11:00] uh, there will not be a self tax for me and Ron Gould, I guess. Ron Gould will never get the quarter cent self tax. Yeah, for 20 years, and they’ve done some really cool things, but there comes a time in the fall, that, hey, 20 years is up, boom, that’s it. And, you can twist Ron Gould’s arm if you’re not, but now you got two of us on there.

Scotty McClure: And I think Jennifer Esposito, I don’t know, I don’t know. It’s going to end up wrong. I’m going to have to pass this building.

Paul Bull: Yeah, whatever. Okay, thanks Scotty. Okay, welcome. This ends our meeting this evening. Now, before y’all run out